Curse

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 12:49 PM // 12:49

So ya, I am not good at the long speeches about such and such... so blah blah blah... anyway this build makes you quite hard to kill by anything that uses a bow *coughrockshotscough* or anything else *coughjadebowscough*. I did this because I got tired of using 55 Me :P I like to spice things up! *Hides from Avarre's 55 wrath*

Attribute Allocation: Me/W
Fast Casting: 8 (7+1) ~ Technically this isn't even needed.
Illusion: 15 (11+4)
Inspiration: 9 (8+1) ~ Healing/Also Technically not needed.
Tactics: 10 (10)

Skill Set:
Illusionary Weaponry
Healing Signet
Ether Feast
"Shields Up"
Deflect Arrows (IW does not cancel this!)
E-Tap (Just incase)
IoW
~Open Slot~ (Channeling for cover if needed/Cry to stop healings)

Basics: This can be run two ways, depending on what you are facing. I included the FC so that IW will literraly never be interuptable. Inspiration I took for Ether Feast, though based on your targets you can completely drop Inspiration or FC and throw all those points into Tactics or Illusion, or both. Though I advise keeping Inspiration as E-Tap may become neccessary, especially if you use a shield.

If you are facing one ranged foe, say Rockshot Boss outside Elona, you can stack "Shields Up" and Deflect to become, quite literraly, invincible for 16 seconds. Which is easily enough time to kill that bug. If you face larger mobs then you can alternate "Shields Up" and Deflect, as they are both 16 seconds with 30 recharge. Jade Bows deal a wooping 6 damage with "Shields Up", the degen is why I bring E-Feast though Healing Sig can counter it, and Deflect does hurt a bit more but they hit ALOT less.

I am going to try and make some screenies of Devourer Soloing and Jade Soloing, only problem with Jades is that I have found only one easy to reach spot... Perdition Jades which you need to pull away from everything XD. Longbows are your friends. If anyone can think of any other Jade Spawns that are not grossely surrounded I will try it out.

Now that I think of it you can also farm outside Dunes where, for some damn reason, full mobs of Enchanted Bows seem to like spawning.

EDIT: Yes I know the name sucks... I am just in a "corny" mood. I remembered Avicara Fierce unless you manage to Cry all their Ignites at once... it will be one hell of a battle. Ofcourse you could bring... erm... I have no idea what can counter Ignite.

Avarre · Apr 14, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Theos

I did this because I got tired of using 55 Me :P I like to spice things up! *Hides from Avarre's 55 wrath*

/smite

Problem is, there aren't that many ranged attackers to justify a mesmer/war build to counter them. Jades have armors, avicara have braves... and that makes the build somewhat messier.

So long as you fight only ranged enemies, looks pretty solid though.

Senator Tom · Apr 14, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by Avarre

So long as you fight only ranged enemies, looks pretty solid though.

spider farming in fow ftw?

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Senator Tom

spider farming in fow ftw?

Called Shot FTL ~ Trust me I thought of it and then I remember Called and I cried.

There are a few Fierce only spawns in Mineral Springs, such as by the first collector and only material crafter. Sadly its a real pain to get there but I suppose dropping out a skill for IoH would work to get there as you only need to avoid one mob.... not counting the many Summit on the way to mineral

Certain things, such as Enchanted can be taken care of by taking PR to kill the usual Hammer/Sword escort under "Shields Up" then simply finish off the Bow under Deflect. This will work because Enchanted don't heal and come in nice Bowish quantities outside Dunes.

Only place I can think of for Jade Bows is Peridition where two spawns of three do exist alone XD

Time to scour Tyria for a high level ranged mob... this may be hard.

Francis Demeules · Apr 14, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Problem is, there aren't that many ranged attackers to justify a mesmer/war build to counter them. Jades have armors, avicara have braves... and that makes the build somewhat messier.

So long as you fight only ranged enemies, looks pretty solid though.

you have some tactics. If you use a sword, perhaps using something like Deadly riposte (The one which use energy and not adrenaline and bleed) to survive against melee a little longer. you have a free slot so we can put here.

Avarre · Apr 14, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Deadly riposte would work... if there was only 1 weak melee enemy. It has something like 5s recharge, and you have 60 armor - versus braves or armors you will have to be cleaned up with a spatula. :/

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Deadly Riptose lasts for 8 seconds, 10 second recharge, and deals a good deal of damage and bleed. As Avarre stated Armours and Braves will flatten you with or without it.

On a positive note I had fun taking, what five minutes, to make this build.

PS: DR will work against Enchanted Melee as they are generally not as strong... especially the Enchanted Hammer. The swords are annoying with Thrill of Victory but... well what can you do.

Avarre · Apr 14, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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The swords are annoying with Thrill of Victory but... well what can you do.

Use no super runes except vigor, a +30hp sword and +45hp shield!

Francis Demeules · Apr 14, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Deadly riposte would work... if there was only 1 weak melee enemy. It has something like 5s recharge, and you have 60 armor - versus braves or armors you will have to be cleaned up with a spatula. :/

I fight with hench in mineral spring for fun (with my Me/W builds without IW). I have no problems against Fierce spike or Brave (They help me instead

). If I fight against Jade, I use Distortion or Physical Resistance to survive against them.

Maybe its the problem with many mesmers, its the armor. I dont go in melee without my Rogue armor.

I thought to Clumsiness to follow in Illusion line or Distortion too (maybe stupid to get another stance but wise when you know how to switch between them)

Edit: DR ignore the armor

. Like Avarre said, +HP max Sword/Shield and Vigor = a good +125HP

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Use no super runes except vigor, a +30hp sword and +45hp shield!

That may work, actually... for Bows/Swords/Hammer;
Illusionary Weaponry
Healing Signet
Deadly Riptose
"Shields Up"
Deflect Arrows (IW does not cancel this!)
E-Tap (Just incase)
IoW
Physical Resistance

You will need one illusion mask with Major/Minor for the swords/hammers then when they are dead flip to Superior Illusion Mask for IW superiority and plow through the Bows. Its gets really trciky when facing more than one melee unit but it is horribly easy when there are 2+ bows. A group of three bows will deal you ~100 damage if you do it right, none if you heal :P I dropped out EF because DR will allow you use Healing Sig without worrying about the -40 armour. Just time it right.

EDIT: Francis, Armours have Wild Blow so PR and Distortion would be useless, unless you were referring to just the Bows XD When ever I am in a bad mood at the Armours I take Clumsi and Inpetitude and repeatedly kill the two idiots jades outside Onyx Gate... its alot of fun watching them squirm >:-D

Yanman.be · Apr 14, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Theos

Called Shot FTL ~ Trust me I thought of it and then I remember Called and I cried.

We're talking mesmers here...I'm sure you can think of something...*Cough* Diversion *Cough*

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

We're talking mesmers here...I'm sure you can think of something...*Cough* Diversion *Cough*

Echo diversion? Thats... not enough.

Avarre · Apr 14, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

You need to teach me how to put diversion on 24 spiders at once.

Francis Demeules · Apr 14, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Avarre

You need to teach me how to put diversion on 24 spiders at once.

I can only do with 4 spiders... well... at least 4 but not in once

........Or blind them in once (must be lucky)

Edit: I forgot this skill on Jade Armor

Theos · Apr 14, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by Avarre

You need to teach me how to put diversion on 24 spiders at once.

Well technically you can pull them in small groups of three. If you can divert the Called Shot of two, hopefully as three since they spam it every other shot, you should be able to easily go through them. Since Cry will be needed for Healing Springs though you will need to drop E-feast for Diversion.

If they start chaining HS you are screwed though.